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Q. What is the Door of No Return?
A. The Door of No Return is a collective phrase for the places,
the ports, where slaves were taken to be brought to the Americas.
Im fascinated by the idea of the Door of No Return. Its
beautifully apt for the things Im describing in the book.
It is a lovely metaphor. The language of the phrase begins from
simple description but it collects multiple meanings as we enter
it. It allowed me to begin a journey to create a map to a place
where a search for identity or the nature and quality of existence
would begin. Because time and history separate us from that place
it is therefore a space in the imagination. I felt I was connected
to this door, this space. This journey would be to create a map
to that place, which is both a map to a place in history and a
map to a place in the imagination.
Q. I thought that the argument you present in the book, where
you compare Toni Morrisons and J.M. Coetzees visions
of Africa, was a wonderful illustration of how we build identity
through a relationship with place. Morrisons Africa is a
very spiritual place. Her characters often seek comfort in the
idea of returning to Africa and being free. Whereas Coetzees
Africa as revealed in Disgrace is a very hard and immediate
experience.
A. Morrisons issue is with America the black
presence and the nature of freedom in America. I think that space
is the space Im actually talking about. The journey to Africa
is not a temporal journey to a physical homeland but a journey
to a spiritual one which has elements of a past that was broken
and tragic.
The age of map-making coincides with this tragedy too. To make
a map is to create a definition of a place. Some maps are made
to places you dont know even exist to a new place.
I wanted to lift that idea of map-making. I want to live in another
kind of world. In a sense, that is the map I am writing.
The book is a map. The form, the sketches and ruminations, as
early maps were, allowed me the freedom to pick up an idea and
examine it in many different ways. The way it travelled was in
some ways the way a poem travels. I could reach out and follow
an idea. I could drop one thread and then pick up another one.
The form allowed the book itself to become a map to my journey
for a new kind of identity and existence. Whether its a
poem, a newspaper article, a piece of music, a novel, a piece
of my own writing, a childhood memory all these signposts
come together to drive the journey.
Q. Did you find that place?
A. I think I do live in a different place, I just havent
fully come to understand it yet. I sat down the other night for
a coffee with a friend, and it occurred to me that this city we
live in has never happened before. Toronto has not happened before,
and thats something incredible. And it hasnt ever
happened before because all of these different types of people,
sharing different kinds of experiences, or what we call identities,
have just not been in the same place together before. So now,
who am I? I really want to think about that. My objections lie
with the people who hang onto what they call identities for the
most awful reasons, and those are the reasons of exclusion. Im
trying to be very careful how I say it. I dont want to say
that we dont have a history, but what we hold onto has to
be part of a much larger terrain.
Q. What is the meaning of this book for you?
A. Beyond the meaning of existence in the black Diaspora,
its how one defines ones own existence within history,
within a specific place. I wanted to challenge the idea of constantly
having to fix oneself as a way of finding identity. How do you
or I collect ourselves each morning? How do we disturb the deeply
troublesome labels that admit no complexity, no range but which
come to represent us in the world? I think thats the argument
at the centre of the book.
Q. Do you think the book accomplishes this?
A. If I am successful, probably not. Its still a meditation
to me.
In the end, what it did if I think of who might read it
I think theres a citizen of a city like this one,
who it will make a great deal of sense to. It essentially asks,
how do you figure yourself out against the backdrop of history?
What do you notice, what are the things that come together to
make you up at a particular moment? I think it asks a fundamental
question, which is not just a question for me or for Africans
in the Diaspora, but the question of being. How existence is constructed
for you. I talk about all these interpretations that you walk
into unknowingly, almost from birth. If youre lucky you
spend the rest of your life fighting them, if youre not,
you spend your life unquestioningly absorbing.
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